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: post by SteveOTB at 2007-03-01 12:28:02
the_taste_of_cigarettes said:
Here is what I went through as one of our earlier bumps in the road. This is what I got sent as a 72 dpi JPG proof from the printer. This type of format and resolution has no scalability whatsoever. It gets blocky at like 110%. Anyway, this is the file, scaled down from SEVERAL FEET WIDE to 500px:



I couldn't understand why it was so big with so much white room. Plus, even with cropping, at 72 dpi I couldn't make out exactly what I needed to see on this thing. The colors were totally off if that file served me correctly, and it was blocky, so who knows if that would be on the final print or not.

Normally, with Illustrator to EPS conversions, if something is pushed off of the immediate artboard, it will be included in the EPS when it is rasterized. It's a long story, but it happens and when you first learn Illustrator you come to learn that fact. This is very basic if you know the software. So I guessed that's what it was, though I hadn't moved ANYTHING that far off the artboard. I found that when I shut off the layers that I edited, it did not solve the problem. I determined it was in the locked, template-originated layers. I opened the templates Ken provided, and zoomed out to about that area. Here is what I saw:



Clearly there appears to be nothing that far off the artboard. I went through layers (a time consuming process) and then switched to Outline mode which can reveal the center of pretty much any object that is still part of the file (imagine if you didn't know to do this?). Here is what I saw then. I have added an arrow and circled the dots so you can see what I found:




these are what was forcing the EPS file to be an amazing amount of square inches. The "design" group didn't catch this, the printer didn't catch this. Ken DID catch this, but didn't preface this to me when he sent the files. Why? I don't know.

When I took out the objects (garbage, btw, unnecessary for the templates at all, it turns out) the files then proofed fine. If you had trouble following this, then you understand part of the frustration. It's also key to note that this is in the ORIGINAL TEMPLATES, so it still may be there on their site.



OK few questions.

What color mode were you working with? Was it CMYK, RGB, Pantone?

Was the art sent as 300dpi?

Were the text layers rasterized?

Was there bleed on the template?

Sometimes when working with CMYK I find out the color doesn't come out as exactly as planned. Pantone should give you the best results because it's so precise.

If you made the artwork to fit the template then it's a pretty easy job from there, there should've been no reason to give you all this trouble.

As for the abundance of white room my guess is they were working in Illustrator, made the size of the document much bigger then the artwork and then when you export it as a JPG or something you get the white area because it exports the document based on the size not by what's on the artboard.

Also they could've been messing with the art so that it works better for them and possibly pleases you more (which obviously it didn't) maybe they changed the orange in the background so that the black text could stand out more?

As for the UPC code being pixelated they're clearly just idiots then because last time I check UPC codes need to be solid black not shades of gray.
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