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returntothepit >> discuss >> Grand Belial's Key by anonymous on Jul 15,2005 12:12am
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toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jul 15,2005 12:12am
Probably the greatest USA black metal band of all time. Often times under rated and shunned because of their controversial attitudes. GBK is Black Metal the way it is supposed to be: blasphemous and very offensive. If you don't own a GBK record you should not be into black metal....




toggletoggle post by dwellingsickness at Jul 15,2005 2:39am
your about a week late bud, they play Manch last saturday and the discussion has already been done



toggletoggle post by IcedEarth77 at Jul 15,2005 2:53am
Grand Bigot's Key, yes, TOTALLY the best USA black metal band of all time....well, after a few dozen others that come to mind, eh?



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Jul 15,2005 9:59am
I like GBK, but absu gets my vote for best u.s black metal



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Jul 15,2005 10:19am
IcedEarth77 said:
Grand Bigot's Key, yes.


hahahahahaha

I enjoy the CD they traded. Really good music.

I'm all for hating Christians, but I draw the line with Nazism because when you consider its rise in the last century, it was totally establishment in Germany. I thought Black Metal involved hatred for the status quo.

Plus they censored everything, just like the PMRC in the 80's

If Nazis were in charge, folks, you would not be allowed to listen to metal.

Or if you WERE allowed, you may have been shocked to have found that their idea of good shit was Wretched Asylum or some crap like that RATHER THAN the Wagnerian seasoning of "Blood Fire Death" / "Hammerheart". That would be a rude wake-up call.

And then it would be too late. Just something to consider.



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Jul 15,2005 11:40am
Well, at least the guy said 'probably the greatest USA black metal band' as opposed to 'definitely', because they are most definitely not.

Comparing December Wolves, Leviathan or Kvlt ov Azazel to GBK is like sandblasting a soupcracker.



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Jul 15,2005 11:42am
Leviathan is my pick. I've been listening to that fucker non-stop for months.



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Jul 15,2005 11:43am
Not to mention this band, which is pretty damn mighty (and funny):

http://www.myspace.com/ordorakun



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Jul 15,2005 11:45am
hahahaha, that rules,

Total add. ADD.



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Jul 15,2005 11:47am
Oh yeah, leviathan is a sick BM bastard



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Jul 15,2005 11:51am
I was listening to that second track off his "Speed of Darkness" split with Iuvenes and it's sooooooo creepy. Almost psychadelic in his drones, howls and screeches, it truly is evocative of a hostile and desolate alien landscape. Think the old 70's cartoon movie "Fanastic Planet", only with corpsepaint and even more shrooms.

The Baby: OOOOOOOOOOO!
The Immigrant: AAAAAAAAAAHH!
The Guy on Mushrooms: UUUUUUUUUUUUUHH...



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Jul 15,2005 11:56am
I had not thought to hallucinate to Leviathan but now that you mentioned it, I will at the next available opportunity.



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Jul 15,2005 11:57am
well, be careful.



toggletoggle post by doortop  at Jul 15,2005 12:00pm
Leviathan definitely is THE choice for best american "band", but Kult of Azazel is a very close second.

Did anyone notice the Indiana Jones BM band that was one of Rakun's friends? http://www.myspace.com/sallah



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Jul 15,2005 12:03pm
Xasthur



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Jul 15,2005 12:03pm
myspace is full of errors today

I wonder if I should start a side BM project about Wholphins.



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Jul 15,2005 12:04pm
no wholphins



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Jul 15,2005 12:08pm
what about Windmills?



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Jul 15,2005 12:10pm
or dredels, that should throw a curveball!

Israeli Black Metal, not unheard of



toggletoggle post by duff138 at Jul 15,2005 12:25pm
Right now I'd say Morbosidad is my favorite. totally brutal heavy shit.
Leviathan is great too. I spent 2 weeks just listening to all his old demo material. Truley a talented individual.



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Jul 15,2005 12:29pm



toggletoggle post by KillerKadoogan   at Jul 15,2005 12:29pm
litacore said:
I wonder if I should start a side BM project about Wholphins.


holy shit, do it.

i'm doing one about horses. we can do a split!



toggletoggle post by duff138 at Jul 15,2005 12:36pm
litacore said:



those are them! I think I have most of them. Lot and Lots and Lots of hours of great stuff!



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Jul 15,2005 12:42pm
might you be able to hook me up? I eat anything and everything Wrest puts out.

All I have other than the Moribund stuff is Verrater and the Misanthropic Necro Blasphemy re-release on cassette. I was telling Andee at tUMULt that if he ever released a Leviathan box set of the early shit there'd very likely be a lucrative market for it.

I may have some items I could trade if interested.



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Jul 15,2005 1:18pm
I think Rakun also has the Klingon death/black metal band Sto'vo'kor friended. Pretty funny shit, but I prefer the Rakun music.



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Jul 15,2005 1:23pm
As much as I like the demos on Verrater, I think my favorite Leviathan was 'Tenth Sub-Level of Suicide' followed closely by 'Tentacles of Whorror'.



toggletoggle post by Strep_Cunt  at Jul 15,2005 5:51pm
Christraper said:
Xasthur






toggletoggle post by Arillius   at Jul 15,2005 6:06pm edited Jul 15,2005 6:12pm
all of those bands are great.. but ive always liked xasthur because of the original sound in malefic's music..

i recorded some solo project thing today.. it's somewhat boring but here it is nonetheless.. : http://www.abaroth.com/temp/jim/Geryon/Ger...yon%20-%20Sacrificial%20Macabre.mp3

right click and save target as to save bandwith!



toggletoggle post by BestialOnslaught  at Jul 15,2005 6:19pm
I personally find GBK's (and ARGHOSLENT's) racism to be pretty funny... I don't subscribe to such beliefs on a personal level, but Alex/Gelal lyrics are pretty creative and witty, whether dealing with Christians, Jews, slaves, whatever. They don't really delve into politics either, which certainly seperates them from a lot of other racist BM/DM bands.



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Jul 15,2005 7:28pm
I thought Leviathan's sound was original myself...still haven't gotten into Xasthur, but I shall listen again.

Arghoslent is a great band, it's true they are racist but I always viewed them as more of a 'historical' band with their lyrics. Not to mention their music is excellent.

But I do think there are many other USBM bands better than GBK, as far as the original post in the thread.



toggletoggle post by bestial onsluts at Jul 16,2005 12:08am
BestialOnslaught said:
I personally find GBK's (and ARGHOSLENT's) racism to be pretty funny... I don't subscribe to such beliefs on a personal level, but Alex/Gelal lyrics are pretty creative and witty, whether dealing with Christians, Jews, slaves, whatever. They don't really delve into politics either, which certainly seperates them from a lot of other racist BM/DM bands.


flogging the cargo!



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Jul 16,2005 2:14am
Most of the black metal bands in the New England area could make a serious run at being the "best" USBM band. Some of my favorite non-NE USBM: Wind of the Black Mountains, Blood Storm, Krieg, Winter of Apokalypse, Nachtmystium, and Weakling

I really don't like that USBM band Harvist. I listened to A Gleam in the Night and it had the absolute worst production I've ever heard. It wasn't even the good visceral feeling you get from a hissing lo-fi tape recorder, it was just really tinny and shitty sounding.



toggletoggle post by cnv at Jul 16,2005 5:02am
GBK owns you...



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Jul 16,2005 9:37am
BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:
Most of the black metal bands in the New England area could make a serious run at being the "best" USBM band. Some of my favorite non-NE USBM: Wind of the Black Mountains, Blood Storm, Krieg, Winter of Apokalypse, Nachtmystium, and Weakling

I really don't like that USBM band Harvist. I listened to A Gleam in the Night and it had the absolute worst production I've ever heard. It wasn't even the good visceral feeling you get from a hissing lo-fi tape recorder, it was just really tinny and shitty sounding.


I agree, we certainly have one of the stronger BM scenes in the US (it would seem). I guess it's not saying much since the BM scenes are still far stronger elsewhere in the world, but at least its something. I'm not sure I 'get' the loathing other parts of the world seem to have for USBM. Wind of the Black Mountains and Blood Storm are pretty cool, I don't think I've heard Weakling.

I didn't like Harvist either.



toggletoggle post by Kinslayer at Jul 16,2005 10:33am
I have two GBK shirts for sale/trade...One is LS the other is SS..



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jul 16,2005 12:43pm
DrinkHardThrashHard said:
Well, at least the guy said 'probably the greatest USA black metal band' as opposed to 'definitely', because they are most definitely not.

Comparing December Wolves, Leviathan or Kvlt ov Azazel to GBK is like sandblasting a soupcracker.


Kult ov Azazel is boring and the vocalist is terrible...




toggletoggle post by CNV at Jul 16,2005 2:29pm
litacore said:
IcedEarth77 said:
Grand Bigot's Key, yes.


hahahahahaha

I enjoy the CD they traded. Really good music.

I'm all for hating Christians, but I draw the line with Nazism because when you consider its rise in the last century, it was totally establishment in Germany. I thought Black Metal involved hatred for the status quo.

Plus they censored everything, just like the PMRC in the 80's

If Nazis were in charge, folks, you would not be allowed to listen to metal.

Or if you WERE allowed, you may have been shocked to have found that their idea of good shit was Wretched Asylum or some crap like that RATHER THAN the Wagnerian seasoning of "Blood Fire Death" / "Hammerheart". That would be a rude wake-up call.

And then it would be too late. Just something to consider.


Why stop at just hating Christianity? Because it's pc in the metal realm? Spit on all middle eastern shit religions and their followers... Judaism (the Jewish faith), Christianity, and Muslim all breeds fascism. Expose their flock of shit. Hebrews are the ones that destroyed Paganism in Europe.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Jul 16,2005 2:38pm
and don't get me wrong... I am not a nazi. Nazism leaves no room for the individual. Another herd mentality that gives people comfort. The aesthetics of it are fascinating nonetheless.



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Jul 16,2005 3:07pm
Kult ov Azazel is boring and the vocalist is terrible...


Well, to each his/her own, I've never known any two metal fans to agree on very much (except maybe all the single-genre followers), but I'm listening to their latest record "The World, The Flesh & The Devil" right now, and it is neither boring me nor is the vocalist terrible, especially not in comparison to GBK.



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Jul 16,2005 3:09pm
Arillius said:
all of those bands are great.. but ive always liked xasthur because of the original sound in malefic's music..

i recorded some solo project thing today.. it's somewhat boring but here it is nonetheless.. : http://www.abaroth.com/temp/jim/Geryon/Ger...yon%20-%20Sacrificial%20Macabre.mp3

right click and save target as to save bandwith!


Not so bad man, has a nice airy production and atmosphere.




toggletoggle post by litacore   at Jul 19,2005 4:00pm
duff138 said:
litacore said:



those are them! I think I have most of them. Lot and Lots and Lots of hours of great stuff!


holy god man, those CDRs you burned for me are awesome, now I just have to try and zap all those mp3s through my soundedit software or something to kick up those levels a bit, this is gonna be fun!




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