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returntothepit >> discuss >> white power bands by FuckTheTrend on Nov 18,2004 1:07pm
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toggletoggle post by FuckTheTrend at Nov 18,2004 1:07pm
ok i don't know about many white power bands around here. there were a few when i lived in new hampshire. the only 1 i ever hear about from this area is 1942 but they only have 1 song online and its not that good. so if you guys know of any GOOD white power bands let me know.



toggletoggle post by dan. at Nov 18,2004 1:08pm
GAY



toggletoggle post by armageddonday   at Nov 18,2004 1:16pm
Delete this post please.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Nov 18,2004 1:16pm
I heard Slipknot was wikked sic White Power Metal



toggletoggle post by armageddonday   at Nov 18,2004 1:17pm
Yeah I was trying to remember the band he was talking about in his trendy threat.



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toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 18,2004 1:26pm
Check out "Honor" theyre not local but theyre just about the only white power band ill listen to. I really dont support that shit though. Ive got no problem with being proud of my heritage but those guys take it way too far.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 18,2004 1:26pm
sadly there are a few people here that are probably into white power bands even if their music sucks.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 18,2004 1:30pm edited Nov 18,2004 1:31pm
out of curiosity:

are there bands/people who are 'white power' but at the same time not racist? Just proud to be white? I mean there are plenty of black people proud to be black and that's okay, peurto ricans have their pride week in worcester driving around with flags all over their cars, ect... but if someone is proud to be white they're automatically labeled racist.



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Nov 18,2004 1:31pm
Im proud to be white. Theres no reason why I shouldnt be, and im definitely not racist.



toggletoggle post by whoremastery  at Nov 18,2004 1:32pm
oi oi oi oi I want the sound track to romper stomper!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Nov 18,2004 1:33pm
I'm wicked proud that I can cum over and over again.
does that make me gay?



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 18,2004 1:33pm
Christraper said:
Im proud to be white. Theres no reason why I shouldnt be, and im definitely not racist.


Yeah but if you ever went around promoting that you were proud to be white, people would think you were racist. It's retarded.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Nov 18,2004 1:33pm
All "power" movements are just another way of padding egos.

Look, I'm all about finding ways for people to feel like the belong and make them happy, but if it's just because of your "race" that's total shit. Like fuck it -- every race has perks and fallbacks: white guys have poor skin (sunburns, hives, rashes, acne explosions, etc) as opposed to many other races; black people have a higher instance of heart disease, anemia, breast cancer, etc; Asian people have...stuff I can't think off off the top of my head; etc etc.

so it's like arguing grape is better than cherry. It's just what it is, why bother arguing it?

That said, some of the music from White Power bands is really good, it's just the lyrical content is ridiculous. You can't form a legitimate argument that black people are any worse than white people.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Nov 18,2004 1:34pm edited Nov 18,2004 1:35pm
Tom makes a good point --

I'm neither "white power" nor "sexist" but I am not ashamed in the LEAST of being heterosexual, white, and male.


Yet for saying that i am CONSTANTLY labeled as racist, sexist, and homophobic. And trust me, if you know me well, you know I'm NONE of those three.



toggletoggle post by whoremastery  at Nov 18,2004 1:35pm
ever listen to jonny rebel...that guy was fuckin racist as all hell!



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 18,2004 1:38pm
I think it's funny when chris rock pokes fun of white people, it's actually really funny. I wonder if there are black rap groups that have racist lyrics against white people...anyone know of any?



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Nov 18,2004 1:38pm
Yea theres way too many girls i want to have sex with to be a racist. And youre right Rusted its ridiculous how were not able to be proud of who we are just because of shit our ancestors did that had NOTHING to do with anyone alive today.



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Nov 18,2004 1:39pm
whoremastery said:
ever listen to jonny rebel...that guy was fuckin racist as all hell!

Jonny Rebel's a funny bastard.




toggletoggle post by dan. at Nov 18,2004 1:39pm
i think white power bands are gimmicky bullshit. HEY WE ARE A WHITE POWER BAND. and then anyone who is into white power automatically is like hey awesome im a fan of your band. that and white power is fucking gay. being proud of your heritage, imo, is pretty fucking dumb too. im not gonna be proud of everyone who has a common trait with me just because they have a common trait. id rather hate them because chances are they are dumb fucks.

but people who are proud to be white and not racist...well in the south alot of people have confederate flags because they are proud to be southern but they are certainly not racist. maybe their supporting a flag that stood for slavery..but it stood for a fuck lot more than that. id be pissed if i was black and my statehouse had a flag that stood for something that offended me too..but theres plenty of people who have southern pride - arent guilty about slavery - are not racist - and drive awesome trucks.



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Nov 18,2004 1:42pm
Isnt being proud to be white and being proud of your heritage the same thing?



toggletoggle post by dan. at Nov 18,2004 1:44pm
um...well you can live somewhere and love where you live and not care for the people that live there but still be proud of where you live looks (you know like wearing a shirt that says new zeland on it or some shit)....and how it got that way (which is the heritage) but not care about the people...i dont know that probably doesnt make sense. im at work and im doin 9 things at once.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 18,2004 1:45pm edited Nov 18,2004 1:49pm
Christraper said:
Yea theres way too many girls i want to have sex with to be a racist. And youre right Rusted its ridiculous how were not able to be proud of who we are just because of shit our ancestors did that had NOTHING to do with anyone alive today.


yeah, I had nothing to do with that shit, and I got black people ganging up on friends, stealing my bike, throwing rocks at me, shooting paintball guns at us most likely because we're white. I had nothing to do with all that slavery bullshit, so it's rediculous that they'd take their anger out on us still today.

on the other hand the ones doing this shit, are probably living shitty lives never having a good household growing up and don't give a fuck about anyone or themselves.



toggletoggle post by dan. at Nov 18,2004 1:48pm
i just think white power kids who live in the suburbs are fucking gay and just looking for attention cuz their daddies didnt fuck them enough



toggletoggle post by armageddonday   at Nov 18,2004 1:49pm
I'm certainly not proud to be human....



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Nov 18,2004 1:49pm
RustedAngel said:
on the other hand the ones doing this shit, are probably living shitty lives never having a good household growing up and don't give a fuck about anyone or themselves.


Thats most likely what it is. Angry kids looking for an excuse to be angry at someone. Its easier to blame others for your shitty ass life than the fact that youre just a lazy ni.......i mean.....um....bastard. im not racist.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 18,2004 1:55pm
Christraper said:

Thats most likely what it is. Angry kids looking for an excuse to be angry at someone. Its easier to blame others for your shitty ass life than the fact that youre just a lazy ni.......i mean.....um....bastard. im not racist.


they'd probably consider me a rich white boy and kick my ass over it. I'm proud of my parents and grateful for my family, they've worked their asses off to get us where we are. It's not my fault their families suck ass and don't teach them how to be civil.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 18,2004 1:58pm
WHITE POWER!! SEIG HEIL!! ADOLF HITLER WILL RISE AGAIN!!!



toggletoggle post by Robteratism at Nov 18,2004 1:59pm
And kill himself again!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Nov 18,2004 2:00pm
RA: shouldn't you be into red power?



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Nov 18,2004 2:02pm
RustedAngel said:
It's not my fault their families suck ass and don't teach them how to be civil.

Exactly! If they care so much about getting respect they need to give us a reason to respect them. Just because my great great great grandfather used to whip their great great great grandparents doesnt entitle them to anything. Why do we constantly have to apologize for shit neither of us were involved in?




toggletoggle post by armageddonday   at Nov 18,2004 2:02pm
Robteratism said:
And kill himself again!



hahahahahah what a wimp that guy was when you think of it...



toggletoggle post by dan. at Nov 18,2004 2:03pm
because its something to latch on to so they can see its not their fault that their lives are so shitty. it is bullshit. maybe that would hold up 100 years ago and im definetly not saying racism doesnt exist but we live in a world now that if someone - anyone - wants to take the effort and make a name for themselves and do good - they can. it might be harder but so what life is hard get the fuck over it



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Nov 18,2004 2:03pm
Hitler was gay. Really. Im not insulting him, he really was gay. Worst closet case ever.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Nov 18,2004 2:04pm
I am into Nintendo Power.



toggletoggle post by dan. at Nov 18,2004 2:04pm
hitler was a sensitive man



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Nov 18,2004 2:05pm
power metal



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Nov 18,2004 2:05pm
he was a failure over and over and over again... sort of like bush...
and then rose to power on the backs of the poor... sort of like bush...
and then he put people in camps... sort of like bush...



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 18,2004 2:05pm edited Nov 18,2004 2:06pm
hahah RIP. 2003-2003.



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Nov 18,2004 2:48pm
GAY



Learn some world history. Try ancient history. Very interesting.

METAl power!!!



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Nov 18,2004 2:53pm
IF YOURE NOT INTO METAL....YOU ARE NOT MY FRIEND!!!!!! HEAVY METAL!!!!!!!!!!!



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Nov 18,2004 3:12pm
this is a rather gay post...funny but gay



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Nov 18,2004 3:18pm
Christraper said:
IF YOURE NOT INTO METAL....YOU ARE NOT MY FRIEND!!!!!! HEAVY METAL!!!!!!!!!!!


I hate you so much.
I'm walking around the office singing this now.



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Nov 18,2004 3:31pm
I'm not racist or into white power,although I do have a bunch of skinhead friends that are and they introduced me to some cool music, I actually like the band Screwdriver.... (let the shit talkin begin)



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Nov 18,2004 3:43pm
EVERY ONE OF US HAS HEEEEARD THE CALL!!!!!!!!



toggletoggle post by Hooker  at Nov 18,2004 3:50pm
Being proud of your heritage is useless. No matter what color or whatever you are. "My grandfather came here on a steamship from Ireland. I'm so proud" "Oh really? Mine floated in an oil drum from Cuba. I have a great sense of pride."

Makes no fucking sense.



toggletoggle post by coldnorthernvengeance  at Nov 18,2004 3:55pm

FUCK THE ZIONISTS!!! DIE COMMIE SCUM!!!



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 18,2004 4:00pm
Hooker said:
"Oh really? Mine floated in an oil drum from Cuba. I have a great sense of pride."



HhHHHHhAHAHaHAhAHahAHAhahHAAhaahHa



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 18,2004 4:02pm
Hooker said:
Being proud of your heritage is useless. No matter what color or whatever you are. "My grandfather came here on a steamship from Ireland. I'm so proud" "Oh really? Mine floated in an oil drum from Cuba. I have a great sense of pride."

Makes no fucking sense.


I don't think it is that nonsensical. I think that if you enjoy or admire the culture or government, or maybe even the economy, of the nation of which you originate from, then it is only natural to have some sort of pride that your family is traced back to that nation.



toggletoggle post by BestialOnslaught  at Nov 18,2004 4:08pm
I don't advocate caring about ethnicity, because it's such a foolish, abstract concept... That said, racial pride and hatred can work in the context of Metal/Hardcore/Punk... I try to avoid any white light, monotheistic messages in Metal, but I don't mind racism (if the music is good of course). I may not support it, but the message of hate DOES fit in with aggressive music and makes for a good aesthetic. Gotta give special credit to Alex/Gelal of GBK/ARGHOSLENT for his particularly poetic and humorous anti-Jew/Black/Gay lyrical output.



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Nov 18,2004 4:12pm
coldnorthernvengeance said:

FUCK THE ZIONISTS!!! DIE COMMIE SCUM!!!


Nice!! I could not find any pics of them and i dont have a scanner or i would have scanned the album cover in..I have that shirt though



toggletoggle post by coldnorthernvengeance  at Nov 18,2004 4:16pm


Keep Sweden Swedish...



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 18,2004 4:20pm
coldnorthernvengeance said:


Keep Sweden Swedish...


If that girl is indeed swedish she's most likely been mixed with another ethnicity. Swedish girls tend to have smaller boobs and more accented cheek bones which result in kind of narrow eyes when smiling.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 18,2004 4:32pm
Actually, I didn't really notice at first, but that girl does look very swedish, just with a really nice rack.



toggletoggle post by coldnorthernvengeance  at Nov 18,2004 4:34pm


She's the mascot for Ultima Thule... A Swedish Pride rock band. I'm gonna have to say your wrong on that one...



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Nov 18,2004 4:35pm
Im with dude. Check out the "Your Heritage" I made in helveteboston.com

I don't like pride. human is human. You had no choice in being born what you are. so why are YOU proud? plus pride=arrogance which= hate the war and so on.



toggletoggle post by coldnorthernvengeance  at Nov 18,2004 4:43pm
swamplorddvm said:
Im with dude. Check out the "Your Heritage" I made in helveteboston.com

I don't like pride. human is human. You had no choice in being born what you are. so why are YOU proud? plus pride=arrogance which= hate the war and so on.


It's a white thing, you would'nt understand... I am not a genocidal nazi but at the same time it would bother me to see a pile of Haitians move next door to me.



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Nov 18,2004 4:59pm
Who cares?!?! What are they going to do? Play annoying music? Oh well. Then you play YOUr annoying music too. what if ther were hatians who loved good Metal? Serious question.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Nov 18,2004 5:02pm
i'm only proud of things i've earned and accomplished, not things like race or ethnicity, which i had no control over.



toggletoggle post by armageddonday   at Nov 18,2004 5:06pm
coldnorthernvengeance said:
swamplorddvm said:
Im with dude. Check out the "Your Heritage" I made in helveteboston.com

I don't like pride. human is human. You had no choice in being born what you are. so why are YOU proud? plus pride=arrogance which= hate the war and so on.


It's a white thing, you would'nt understand... I am not a genocidal nazi but at the same time it would bother me to see a pile of Haitians move next door to me.



I'm white (not aryan), my family (both side) comes from Northern Europe, yet I don't understand.
As fas as the pile of Haitians moving next door to you, it's defenitely an immigration issue more than anything else...plus you can always move.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 18,2004 5:08pm
coldnorthernvengeance said:


She's the mascot for Ultima Thule... A Swedish Pride rock band. I'm gonna have to say your wrong on that one...


That means nothing actually about her heritage. Besides, noticed how I took back my comment? It doesn't matter, she looks very similar to many blonde porn stars here in america, and they aren't swedish, they just died their hair. A common misconception is that every swedish girl is a beautiful blonde with a nice set who loves to fuck.



toggletoggle post by coldnorthernvengeance  at Nov 18,2004 5:11pm
swamplorddvm said:
Who cares?!?! What are they going to do? Play annoying music? Oh well. Then you play YOUr annoying music too. what if ther were hatians who loved good Metal? Serious question.


The possiblity of some dope induced voodoo ritual is reason enough for me not wanting them there.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 18,2004 5:12pm
Do you believe in voodoo?



toggletoggle post by coldnorthernvengeance  at Nov 18,2004 5:17pm
retzam said:
Do you believe in voodoo?


Do I believe in Voodoo? I believe in the Occult/supernatural...



toggletoggle post by dread_104  at Nov 18,2004 5:21pm
whoremastery said:
oi oi oi oi I want the sound track to romper stomper!


"smack 'im if 'e's yellow, smack 'im if 'e's black... '




toggletoggle post by dread_104  at Nov 18,2004 5:22pm
ha get it? the a bomb and the whip... i'm funny



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 18,2004 5:25pm
coldnorthernvengeance said:
retzam said:
Do you believe in voodoo?


Do I believe in Voodoo? I believe in the Occult/supernatural...


ok, that's fine. I didn't expect you to believe in anything like that (blind hunch), so I was going to point out that there's no reason to not want to be around their voodoo practices if you don't believe in them. However, I do believe voodoo is more of an african originated thing anyway.



toggletoggle post by coldnorthernvengeance  at Nov 18,2004 5:26pm
retzam said:
coldnorthernvengeance said:


She's the mascot for Ultima Thule... A Swedish Pride rock band. I'm gonna have to say your wrong on that one...


That means nothing actually about her heritage. Besides, noticed how I took back my comment? It doesn't matter, she looks very similar to many blonde porn stars here in america, and they aren't swedish, they just died their hair. A common misconception is that every swedish girl is a beautiful blonde with a nice set who loves to fuck.


A popular generalization about Sweden is that it has a high rate of Suicide, alcoholism, and promiscuous women and it it's true...



toggletoggle post by DaveFromTheGrave  at Nov 18,2004 5:26pm
Aryan bitches are hot.



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Nov 18,2004 5:27pm
dreadkill said:
i'm only proud of things i've earned and accomplished, not things like race or ethnicity, which i had no control over.


Hail to that!



toggletoggle post by coldnorthernvengeance  at Nov 18,2004 5:30pm
retzam said:
coldnorthernvengeance said:
retzam said:
Do you believe in voodoo?


Do I believe in Voodoo? I believe in the Occult/supernatural...


ok, that's fine. I didn't expect you to believe in anything like that (blind hunch), so I was going to point out that there's no reason to not want to be around their voodoo practices if you don't believe in them. However, I do believe voodoo is more of an african originated thing anyway.


It's Haiti's prominent religion actually and their rituals are usually drug induced... I can just picture one of those people high on crack invocating some mud god while twisting the heads off chickens... If it were up to me I'd carpet bomb that country...



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 18,2004 5:34pm
Is it really? I wasn't even aware that it was a religion by itself. Pnot crack, I'd bet most of the drugs that induce their religion are natural substances like weed, mushrooms, and other assorted hallucinigens.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 18,2004 5:37pm
coldnorthernvengeance said:
retzam said:
coldnorthernvengeance said:


She's the mascot for Ultima Thule... A Swedish Pride rock band. I'm gonna have to say your wrong on that one...


That means nothing actually about her heritage. Besides, noticed how I took back my comment? It doesn't matter, she looks very similar to many blonde porn stars here in america, and they aren't swedish, they just died their hair. A common misconception is that every swedish girl is a beautiful blonde with a nice set who loves to fuck.


A popular generalization about Sweden is that it has a high rate of Suicide, alcoholism, and promiscuous women and it it's true...


Yep, and also, all Americans are fat, white republicans who eat McDonalds 3-5 times a week and listen to country while cleaning their new rifle in the passenger seat of their best friend's new pickup truck.



toggletoggle post by metalmatt666 at Nov 18,2004 5:38pm
I had a freind at school that turned racist and now I can't fucking stand him



toggletoggle post by coldnorthernvengeance  at Nov 18,2004 5:40pm edited Nov 18,2004 5:41pm
Haiti=voodoo...Look it up in an Encyclopedia if you don't believe me... Either way those people give me the creeps and I think most white people (whether it's pc or not) agree with me 100 percent but are too chickenshit to admit it. The open borders to the third world should have been closed a long time ago in this country...



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Nov 18,2004 5:47pm
I've never been to Sweden but I've been to Germany, which is almost right next door.
The ratio of hot chicks to ugly one's over there is waaaay higher than it is here. I couldn't walk 10 feet without getting a boner. We went to a concentration camp and a school bus full of kids on a field trip pulled in and about 25 incredibly hot girls walked off, all in a row. It was like Playboy goes to Dachau.
I'm not gonna pretend I know anything about genetics but it does make you think.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 18,2004 5:50pm edited Nov 18,2004 5:57pm
coldnorthernvengeance said:
Haiti=voodoo...Look it up in an Encyclopedia if you don't believe me... Either way those people give me the creeps and I think most white people (whether it's pc or not) agree with me 100 percent but are too chickenshit to admit it. The open borders to the third world should have been closed a long time ago in this country...


Nah I believe you, I was serious, I just didn't know that voodoo was a religion. I do now





toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Nov 18,2004 5:51pm
All I know, is that both of those chicks are highly porkworthy.



toggletoggle post by coldnorthernvengeance  at Nov 18,2004 5:52pm



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Nov 18,2004 5:52pm
but the top one would make a perfect cockholster.
A finely lotioned, leather dick sheath, indeed.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 18,2004 5:58pm
retzam said:
coldnorthernvengeance said:
Haiti=voodoo...Look it up in an Encyclopedia if you don't believe me... Either way those people give me the creeps and I think most white people (whether it's pc or not) agree with me 100 percent but are too chickenshit to admit it. The open borders to the third world should have been closed a long time ago in this country...


Nah I believe you, I was serious, I just didn't know that voodoo was a religion. I do now





Of course I couldn't resist looking it up. I'm a pussy. Voodoo isn't a religion, 80% of Haiti's population is Roman Catholic, that's the major religion. However, you were right, roughly half the population practices voodoo.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Nov 18,2004 5:59pm
voodoo IS a religon man.



toggletoggle post by coldnorthernvengeance  at Nov 18,2004 6:01pm
Hate to break it to you but Voodoo is a religion. So is Satanism, Wiccan, Pagan etc...



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 18,2004 6:01pm
nope, it isn't, there are certain religions that incorporate it, but it by itself is not a religion. Same thing as the occult in general. The occult is not a religion, but there are religions that practice it (basically any form of paganism).



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 18,2004 6:02pm
No, you're confused. Wicca is a religion that is a sect of the broader religion called Paganism. Voodoo is a practice; a tool used within religions, not a religion by itself.



toggletoggle post by Abbath at Nov 18,2004 6:03pm
ya it was there way before the christians went and fucked it up

on another note black metal = white people (more fuel to the fire wooo!)



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 18,2004 6:03pm
Satanism of course is a religion, some forms of which are utterly rediculous (for example: people who praise Satan and deny the existance of God, very self-contradicting).



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Nov 18,2004 6:04pm
but...no, thats wrong, because the people in Haiti that ARENT roman catholic or whatever, practice voodoo as their only religon, therefore, it IS in fact a religon. see my san andreas post, I can do this all night.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 18,2004 6:08pm
"Religions:
Definition Field Listing
Roman Catholic 80%, Protestant 16% (Baptist 10%, Pentecostal 4%, Adventist 1%, other 1%), none 1%, other 3% (1982)
note: roughly half of the population practices Voodoo"

Source: http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ha.html



toggletoggle post by coldnorthernvengeance  at Nov 18,2004 6:09pm



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 18,2004 6:09pm
Granted, those aren't exactly accurate, as this was 1982 it says, but still, it accounts for all 100% and then adds that "roughly half of the population practices Voodoo".



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 18,2004 6:10pm
If you can access the article you just linked too, please copy and paste it, cause that link just brings me to a page that says "File Not Found".



toggletoggle post by coldnorthernvengeance  at Nov 18,2004 6:13pm



toggletoggle post by Abbath at Nov 18,2004 6:14pm
DaveFromTheGrave said:
Aryan bitches are hot.



hails to that



toggletoggle post by coldnorthernvengeance  at Nov 18,2004 6:17pm
coldnorthernvengeance said:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/10/1021_021021_taboovoodoo.html


read it and weep...



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 18,2004 6:19pm
Ok, so now I've found 3 different "definitions" of voodoo.

1) what I originally proposed
2) that it is a religion
3) that the religion Vodun is what is known in America as "voodoo" and that the common view of "voodoo" is a huge misconception.

So now I'm just downright confused. It is clear that Vodun is actually a religion, so yep you're right. But, why is it that the cia page doesn't regard it as one and claims that half of the population of Haiti practices "voodoo", recardless of religion. Could it mean that these people practice "voodoo" as western civilation knows it and not as the actual religion? Whatever, either was I was wrong, I just wish I could be a little less confused about it.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 18,2004 6:20pm
coldnorthernvengeance said:
coldnorthernvengeance said:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/10/1021_021021_taboovoodoo.html


read it and weep...



why would I weep?



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 18,2004 6:22pm
Oh, and I must mention that this is the most intelligent argument I've ever had. Not once did it resort to childish insults or anything.



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Nov 18,2004 6:46pm
What are we aguing about?



toggletoggle post by diamond_dave  at Nov 18,2004 6:54pm edited Nov 18,2004 6:55pm
RustedAngel said:
I wonder if there are black rap groups that have racist lyrics against white people...anyone know of any?


Paris, Dead Prez, a few others i cant think of...


armageddonday said:
I'm certainly not proud to be human....


amen to that...


coldnorthernvengeance you are an idiot. you obviously live in a secluded mostly white area. you don't have to be afraid of people that look different than you. it's ok. yes a lot of "them" are ignorant assholes. open your eyes you may notice something. most white people are ignorant fucking pricks too. if you think everyone should be swedish, why don't you move to fucking sweden? this country is called a melting pot for a reason. it's a place for everyone. at least it is now, since it was stolen by the white eastern european. you fucking fool.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 18,2004 7:04pm
swamplorddvm said:
What are we aguing about?


Me and coldnorthernvengeance were arguing about voodoo...



toggletoggle post by dirteecrayon  at Nov 18,2004 7:22pm
coldnorthernvengeance said:


It's Haiti's prominent religion actually and their rituals are usually drug induced... I can just picture one of those people high on crack invocating some mud god while twisting the heads off chickens... If it were up to me I'd carpet bomb that country...


dude, get your facts straight!
voodo is not the top or prominent religion in haiti. catholicism is --- and haitians that immigrate to the united states don't all practive voodo in their basemnts.

voodo is a religion that originated in africa. many african tribes still practive voodo and voodo rituals like the yourba of nigera. haitians also practice voodo and rituals but thats a very small amount. rituals are done to heal the sick or ward off evil spirits --- in most rituals dancing is done and a chicken is sacrificed.

saying all haitians practice voodo is like saying all asians know kung fu or something.

and the reason why i know all of this is because my mother was born and raised in haiti & born and raised in the catholic church. the biggest misconception people have of haitians is that we all practice voodo and shit.

my mother came to the united states when she was 15 and been here for over 30 years so i think your problem is more with immigration and foreigners and if thats the case then you need to get your act together because you are becoming the minority instead of the majority.

oh and i'm a haitian american that listens to good fucking metal too!

=)



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Nov 18,2004 7:23pm
Oh. pfft what about it? It's a religion and religion is silly.



I win!



toggletoggle post by dirteecrayon  at Nov 18,2004 7:26pm
true,

but it's always good to know the truth and not to be blinded with stereotypes.

i had to deal with getting teased all the times because people thought i bit of chicken heads and crap --- wtf?!?!




toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 18,2004 7:39pm
swamplorddvm said:
Oh. pfft what about it? It's a religion and religion is silly.



I win!


Religion helps certain people get through lives in the same way metal helps you get through yours. As long as it isn't affecting anyone else, I don't see why religion is silly.



toggletoggle post by DaveFromTheGrave  at Nov 18,2004 7:43pm
somebody post more pics of the aryan girls



toggletoggle post by CNV at Nov 18,2004 10:17pm
dirteecrayon said:
coldnorthernvengeance said:


It's Haiti's prominent religion actually and their rituals are usually drug induced... I can just picture one of those people high on crack invocating some mud god while twisting the heads off chickens... If it were up to me I'd carpet bomb that country...


dude, get your facts straight!
voodo is not the top or prominent religion in haiti. catholicism is --- and haitians that immigrate to the united states don't all practive voodo in their basemnts.

voodo is a religion that originated in africa. many african tribes still practive voodo and voodo rituals like the yourba of nigera. haitians also practice voodo and rituals but thats a very small amount. rituals are done to heal the sick or ward off evil spirits --- in most rituals dancing is done and a chicken is sacrificed.

saying all haitians practice voodo is like saying all asians know kung fu or something.

and the reason why i know all of this is because my mother was born and raised in haiti & born and raised in the catholic church. the biggest misconception people have of haitians is that we all practice voodo and shit.

my mother came to the united states when she was 15 and been here for over 30 years so i think your problem is more with immigration and foreigners and if thats the case then you need to get your act together because you are becoming the minority instead of the majority.

oh and i'm a haitian american that listens to good fucking metal too!

=)


I never said all Haitians practice Voodoo. It is indeed very common and poular in Haiti though. By the way, I never said everyone of a particular race acts or thinks a certain way either. I did say I am totally opposed to opening the borders to the third world and I will say that the majority of the crime committed in this country is committed by non whites and that's a cold hard fact .






toggletoggle post by dirteecrayon  at Nov 18,2004 10:32pm
coldnorthernvengeance said:
Haiti=voodoo...Look it up in an Encyclopedia if you don't believe me... Either way those people give me the creeps and I think most white people (whether it's pc or not) agree with me 100 percent but are too chickenshit to admit it. The open borders to the third world should have been closed a long time ago in this country...


you said haiti = voodo
which can be interpreted as the whole country practices voodo which is not true at all.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Nov 18,2004 10:37pm
diamond_dave said:
RustedAngel said:
I wonder if there are black rap groups that have racist lyrics against white people...anyone know of any?


Paris, Dead Prez, a few others i cant think of...


armageddonday said:
I'm certainly not proud to be human....


amen to that...


coldnorthernvengeance you are an idiot. you obviously live in a secluded mostly white area. you don't have to be afraid of people that look different than you. it's ok. yes a lot of "them" are ignorant assholes. open your eyes you may notice something. most white people are ignorant fucking pricks too. if you think everyone should be swedish, why don't you move to fucking sweden? this country is called a melting pot for a reason. it's a place for everyone. at least it is now, since it was stolen by the white eastern european. you fucking fool.


Listen you fucking dolt... I never said I want everyone to be Swedish. Hell, I'm not even Swedish. Sweden should be for it's native inhabitants, it's what makes Sweden great... I'm sure you'll hit me with the Indian arguement. Truth is I think we should have just let the Indians keep America.
I don't care to hold hands with everyone and embrace diversity. I could care less about your melting pot bullshit. New York City is a melting pot and a pile of shit as a result. Fuck your melting pot...
I'm not afraid of people that look different from me in fact I have a lot of respect for asians and other races.




toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 18,2004 10:45pm
Anyone who cares about religion is jewish.



toggletoggle post by Josh_hates_you  at Nov 18,2004 11:19pm
i wonder if my KKK band would be considered a white power band.



toggletoggle post by ayin at Nov 18,2004 11:59pm
RustedAngel said:
I think it's funny when chris rock pokes fun of white people, it's actually really funny. I wonder if there are black rap groups that have racist lyrics against white people...anyone know of any?


yeah there are alot of underground hip hop artist that fun of white people all the time. That's all O.D.B talk about one one of his disks, but he was mostly talkin' about white boys that think their black.



toggletoggle post by korpse at Nov 19,2004 6:59am
whoremastery said:
oi oi oi oi I want the sound track to romper stomper!


that soundtrack rules



toggletoggle post by metalmatt666 at Nov 19,2004 7:11pm
www.panzerfaust.com
that's some good white power music



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 19,2004 8:11pm
white power lyrics can be funny if you don't take it seriously.

i think vaginal jesus is a great grind band, the people haters are a decent punk band with some hysterical lyrics, blah blah.

as far as the whole white power thing.....white power is claiming racial superiority.....white PRIDE is being proud of being white...

it is definately obnoxious that most people label any white straight male as an oppressor of everyone who is'nt like him.

i hate when black comedians make fun of white people.....not because i can't take a joke (i can) but because of the pure hypocrisy in the fact that black people can make a career out of just repeating cliches, stereotypes and racial slurs about white people, but if a white person makes a black/jew/whatever joke "oooooh, he's a nazi, burn him at the stake"

fucking double standard hypocryte bullshit drives me up the wall....

and don't give me that "but look what they went through" shit...because everyone still makes jokes about native americans and they had it worse than ANY RACE,EVER!! period!



toggletoggle post by mOe at Nov 19,2004 9:22pm
hmm....white power = fags



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Nov 20,2004 2:08am
my favorites
Absurd
Graveland
Skrewdriver
Brutal Attack
V/A - Romper Stomper Soundtrack

I don't care what anyone thinks, I love those bands.



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Nov 20,2004 2:12am
Anyone know if there is a soundtrack to "American History X"? That was a good movie and the band in there that was at the keg party was killer.



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Nov 20,2004 2:17am
dirteecrayon said:
coldnorthernvengeance said:


It's Haiti's prominent religion actually and their rituals are usually drug induced... I can just picture one of those people high on crack invocating some mud god while twisting the heads off chickens... If it were up to me I'd carpet bomb that country...


dude, get your facts straight!
voodo is not the top or prominent religion in haiti. catholicism is --- and haitians that immigrate to the united states don't all practive voodo in their basemnts.

voodo is a religion that originated in africa. many african tribes still practive voodo and voodo rituals like the yourba of nigera. haitians also practice voodo and rituals but thats a very small amount. rituals are done to heal the sick or ward off evil spirits --- in most rituals dancing is done and a chicken is sacrificed.

saying all haitians practice voodo is like saying all asians know kung fu or something.

and the reason why i know all of this is because my mother was born and raised in haiti & born and raised in the catholic church. the biggest misconception people have of haitians is that we all practice voodo and shit.

my mother came to the united states when she was 15 and been here for over 30 years so i think your problem is more with immigration and foreigners and if thats the case then you need to get your act together because you are becoming the minority instead of the majority.

oh and i'm a haitian american that listens to good fucking metal too!

=)
[/QUOTE
Umm..CNV I think you just got Punked



toggletoggle post by CNV at Nov 20,2004 5:00am
Wow... I'd have to agree. I did get punked but so did you sap... I am becoming the minority... Who cares though? Everything will hunky fuckn dorry...



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Nov 20,2004 12:59pm
this remindes me of that south park episode where they have a planet for asians, deer, white, etc...
and earth is just a big olde reality show.



toggletoggle post by josiah_the_black  at Nov 20,2004 3:03pm
"Skinhead, skinhead, gettin really pissed. Skinhead, skinhead, tattooed on my wrist"



"Gonna be a white minority there's gonna be a large cavity within my new territory we're all gonna die"



toggletoggle post by josiah_the_black  at Nov 20,2004 3:04pm
cnv are you xenophobic?



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Nov 20,2004 3:05pm
White Minority was song by a Latin. It's just a joke song.



toggletoggle post by __THeMoor__  at Nov 20,2004 5:07pm
ungawa black power!
destroy white boy!

seriously though, white power is dumb, lets be honest. anyone remember two or three years ago when some white power group thretened to have a rally at metalfest?



toggletoggle post by dirteecrayon  at Nov 20,2004 8:19pm
Todd said:
Anyone know if there is a soundtrack to "American History X"? That was a good movie and the band in there that was at the keg party was killer.


the soundtrack is orchestra music...



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Nov 20,2004 9:22pm
I was driving by the Holocaust memorial yesterday and I saw some middle school field trip visiting the memorial. There was a small group
of kids hanging out in one of the chimneys, one of the kids was telling a joke, and from the reactions (faces lighting up and laughing, other kids looking absolutely disgusted) I could tell that those children had just heard
their first Jew Joke.



toggletoggle post by FuckTheTrend at Nov 20,2004 9:23pm
the band in that movie was just thrown together just for the movie. and satanists do not worship the devil. satan is a being created by christians. satanists are like wiccans but they use black magick instead of white.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Nov 20,2004 9:24pm
Wiccans use white magic to make and devour baked goods.



toggletoggle post by FuckTheTrend at Nov 20,2004 9:25pm
wtf does that mean?? lol



toggletoggle post by josiah_the_black  at Nov 21,2004 2:20pm
BornSoVile said:
White Minority was song by a Latin. It's just a joke song.



you mean black flag?



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 21,2004 3:52pm
"HAITIAN AMERICAN"????

here's a clue dickheads......calling yourself asian american, african american or anything like that is fucking retarded....

my roots are mostly european, but i don't go around calling my self a "european american"

fucking stupid bullshit

you're an american, or you're not, IT'S THAT FUCKING SIMPLE,ASSHOLES



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Nov 21,2004 4:24pm
Hey I know! I HUMAN!


... sucks!



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 21,2004 4:47pm
FuckTheTrend said:
the band in that movie was just thrown together just for the movie. and satanists do not worship the devil. satan is a being created by christians. satanists are like wiccans but they use black magick instead of white.


Satanists DO worship satan, hence the term. The only form of Satanism that I have any sort of respect for is when the one practicing it believes in both Satan and God (it wouldn't make any sense at all if they didn't) and just decides that based on what's written in the bible, that Satan had better views. The terms "white magick" and "black magick" are not actual terms in wicca, since all magick is used for good. Harmful magick is non-existant in wicca, and most wiccans regard any mention of "black magick" as ignorance, and some are actually offended by the term because it relates to the perversion of their religion.



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Nov 21,2004 4:49pm
ANY religion is whack.

















End of story.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 21,2004 5:03pm
swamplorddvm said:
ANY religion is whack.











End of story.


I don't see what you base that on, yet I've seen that you've made this point a number of times on this board. Why don't you back your opinions up with some facts? That's the weakness of the religions that you are so down upon, none of them are backed up with facts. You have no more proof that religion is fake than the religious have proof that it is real.



toggletoggle post by dirteecrayon  at Nov 21,2004 5:26pm
anonymous said:
"HAITIAN AMERICAN"????

here's a clue dickheads......calling yourself asian american, african american or anything like that is fucking retarded....

my roots are mostly european, but i don't go around calling my self a "european american"

fucking stupid bullshit

you're an american, or you're not, IT'S THAT FUCKING SIMPLE,ASSHOLES



Hey asshat,

my mother was born in haiti, my dad was born in the dominican republic and i was born in america. i can call myself whatever the fuck i want so fuck your stupid anon ass!



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Nov 21,2004 5:40pm
retzam said:
swamplorddvm said:
ANY religion is whack.











End of story.


I don't see what you base that on, yet I've seen that you've made this point a number of times on this board. Why don't you back your opinions up with some facts? That's the weakness of the religions that you are so down upon, none of them are backed up with facts. You have no more proof that religion is fake than the religious have proof that it is real.



Hahahaha whack.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 21,2004 6:54pm
I love your logic, you are calling religion whack and not supporting your statement at all. Your belief (in non-belief) is just as rediculous and seemingly randomly formulated as Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc.



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Nov 21,2004 7:00pm
I have reason but I don't feel like explainning it. and plus whack is a silly word that I use to be stupid. Plus I give up trying to be pc.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 21,2004 7:35pm
Ok, I know what you mean by whack...

Cool, if you don't feel like explaining your reasoning, you probably shouldn't spout opinions, because eventually people will just start disregarding everything you say as foundationless rant.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 21,2004 7:37pm
Political correctness hasn't actually really come into play at all. The phrase "all religion is whack" isn't politically incorrect anyway.



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Nov 21,2004 7:40pm
I thinkit has. Some may be offende by me calling it "whack".



toggletoggle post by Abbath at Nov 21,2004 10:48pm
retzam said:
I love your logic, you are calling religion whack and not supporting your statement at all. Your belief (in non-belief) is just as rediculous and seemingly randomly formulated as Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc.



don't ask him such hard questions, you'll hurt his brain



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Nov 21,2004 10:50pm
Right.


Question to you abbath. Why do you hate christians. and don't say you don't cause you do.



toggletoggle post by Abbath at Nov 21,2004 10:56pm
i hate CHRISTIANITY, not christians (well not all of them) considering there is about a billion + people who are christian. i'm not like you who says all religion is whack that's just fucking stupid



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Nov 21,2004 10:59pm
No it's not really. Why crhistianity and not others?



toggletoggle post by dunwich  at Nov 22,2004 6:01pm
retzam said:
FuckTheTrend said:
the band in that movie was just thrown together just for the movie. and satanists do not worship the devil. satan is a being created by christians. satanists are like wiccans but they use black magick instead of white.


Satanists DO worship satan, hence the term. The only form of Satanism that I have any sort of respect for is when the one practicing it believes in both Satan and God (it wouldn't make any sense at all if they didn't) and just decides that based on what's written in the bible, that Satan had better views. The terms "white magick" and "black magick" are not actual terms in wicca, since all magick is used for good. Harmful magick is non-existant in wicca, and most wiccans regard any mention of "black magick" as ignorance, and some are actually offended by the term because it relates to the perversion of their religion.


Who cares if white or black magic are terms used by Wiccans? Wicca was basically invented by Gardiner anyway in the 50's with bastardized OTO/Golden Dawn rituals and random bits of eastern mysticism...it is not the ancient all encompassing tradition it is made out to be. I don't care what people believe but Wicca is certainly not the authority on the occult.




toggletoggle post by murder steinbag at Nov 27,2004 2:40pm
i would pay big money to eat any one of those swedish chicks. BIG money.



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Nov 27,2004 4:30pm
dirteecrayon said:
Todd said:
Anyone know if there is a soundtrack to "American History X"? That was a good movie and the band in there that was at the keg party was killer.


the soundtrack is orchestra music...


Awesome ,I'll have to get it



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 27,2004 8:23pm
dunwich said:
retzam said:
FuckTheTrend said:
the band in that movie was just thrown together just for the movie. and satanists do not worship the devil. satan is a being created by christians. satanists are like wiccans but they use black magick instead of white.


Satanists DO worship satan, hence the term. The only form of Satanism that I have any sort of respect for is when the one practicing it believes in both Satan and God (it wouldn't make any sense at all if they didn't) and just decides that based on what's written in the bible, that Satan had better views. The terms "white magick" and "black magick" are not actual terms in wicca, since all magick is used for good. Harmful magick is non-existant in wicca, and most wiccans regard any mention of "black magick" as ignorance, and some are actually offended by the term because it relates to the perversion of their religion.


Who cares if white or black magic are terms used by Wiccans? Wicca was basically invented by Gardiner anyway in the 50's with bastardized OTO/Golden Dawn rituals and random bits of eastern mysticism...it is not the ancient all encompassing tradition it is made out to be. I don't care what people believe but Wicca is certainly not the authority on the occult.



Wicca is a sect of Paganism, which IS the "ancient all encompassing tradition it is made out to be".



toggletoggle post by dunwich  at Nov 28,2004 2:12pm
By your logic, I can start a pantheon of kitchen appliances in the year 2005, become a sect of paganism and evidently inherit some sort of authority over paganism/the occult in general. Wiccans may be considered neo-pagans, but Wicca is not an accurate representation of traditional paganism in the slightest. In a sense I could say that Wicca is to Paganism as Levay is to your definition of Satanism.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 28,2004 4:50pm
I'm not exactly sure what Levay is, to be honest. If you care to explain I'll understand the analogy.

I don't see why you are disputing the so called "authority" wiccans have on paganism. I don't recall any such "authority" being brought up at all. All I mentioned about the occult and wicca was that the occult is not a religion, it is a tool used by religions such as wicca. I was just using wicca as an example to point out that the occult isn't a religion.

Also, I didn't really provide any definition of Satanism.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Nov 28,2004 5:16pm
Lavey=Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law...



toggletoggle post by CNV at Nov 28,2004 5:27pm
retzam said:
I'm not exactly sure what Levay is, to be honest. If you care to explain I'll understand the analogy.

I don't see why you are disputing the so called "authority" wiccans have on paganism. I don't recall any such "authority" being brought up at all. All I mentioned about the occult and wicca was that the occult is not a religion, it is a tool used by religions such as wicca. I was just using wicca as an example to point out that the occult isn't a religion.

Also, I didn't really provide any definition of Satanism.[/QUOTE

Satanism is a religion...When did you become the authority on what is or is not a religion?



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 28,2004 7:25pm
Ahhh, there have been so many words put in my mouth in this thread. I did not ever say that satanism is not a religion, not once. No authority has been used/abused by me at all in this thread, and I didn't even mention it until someone else brought it up.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 28,2004 7:28pm edited Nov 28,2004 7:29pm
Just to clarify, I never provided any definition of satanism. The only thing I said about it is that
The only form of Satanism that I have any sort of respect for is when the one practicing it believes in both Satan and God (it wouldn't make any sense at all if they didn't) and just decides that based on what's written in the bible, that Satan had better views.
, and all I meant by this is that I think these teenage morons who go around preaching that God is fake and Satan is the supreme power are not making any sense at all.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Nov 28,2004 7:28pm
I'm about to edit that post because I did the quote brackets wrong.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 28,2004 8:25pm
about that kid talking out of his ass about being american or not.
obviously you don't know that some people have dual citizenship,
so yeah.
so considering i have dual citizenship I have any fucking right to call myself
"japanese - american" and anyone else has a right to say whatever the hell they want.



toggletoggle post by armageddonday   at Nov 28,2004 9:00pm
Going back to the ratio of hot girls in Europe vs the US, and the excellent picture Coldnorthernvengeance posted...I moved here 4 years ago, probably gained 20 pounds yet I'm vegetarian. I've never eat as much in my life...just thinking of it make me wanna go to the gym tomorrow morning.

I've been to Sweden, I love this country, mostly cause of the amount of amazing bands who come from there (punk AND metal). I'm not sure how well I would be accepted if I ever decide to move there, I'm European, have some German, Dutch and Swedish roots on my mother side, mostly English on my father side.
Sweden is THE cleanest country I've seen in my life, the crime rate is uber low, and there are really NOT MANY colored people there...
This is just something I noticed.
As far as nationality, I'm French. I have a green card, when I got approved, the guy asked me if I wanted to apply for US citizenship, and I instantly replied "No, thank you".
I don't want to lose my European nationality, bottom line. If I take US citizenship, they'll ask me to give up my French nationality (European IS the key word in French). The only way to get dual citizenship is to have one parent American. I would not say I'm proud, I just don't want to lose my nationality, I was born French, I'll die French yet I'm not proud to be French...I think you have to be there to understand.

Religions suck. It's just weird that human need it, this I just really don't understand. I'm reading "The prince of darkness" right now, some philosophical view of Satan/the devil etc...this book is tough to read but what I read so far made complete sense (and I'm just at page 10 or so).
Racism I don't understand either.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Nov 28,2004 9:11pm
armageddonday said:
Going back to the ratio of hot girls in Europe vs the US, and the excellent picture Coldnorthernvengeance posted...I moved here 4 years ago, probably gained 20 pounds yet I'm vegetarian. I've never eat as much in my life...just thinking of it make me wanna go to the gym tomorrow morning.
I have a green card, when I got approved, the guy asked me if I wanted to apply for US citizenship, and I instantly replied "No, thank you".
I don't want to lose my European nationality, bottom line. If I take US citizenship, they'll ask me to give up my French nationality (European IS the key word in French). The only way to get dual citizenship is to have one parent American. I would not say I'm proud, I just don't want to lose my nationality, I was born French, I'll die French yet I'm not proud to be French...I think you have to be there to understand.


Racism I don't understand either.


i refuse to give up my european citizenship as well






toggletoggle post by CNV at Nov 28,2004 9:12pm
Stockholm is the cleanest city in Europe... I agree with you on religion being a pile of shit though Lavey's concepts (or Crowley's)are interesting because they are boundless... Middle eastern religions are mental enslavement in my opininion. It's a shame they have such an effect on the world.



toggletoggle post by dan. at Nov 28,2004 9:13pm
i dont get racism because all it takes is one really dumb aryan or one really smart negro to completely disprove it.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Nov 28,2004 9:18pm
Racism is such a broad term... There is a difference between racially aware and racist I think. The concept of "political correctness" is a fascist concept. There are left wing extremists and right wing extremists, I think the further left or right you go the more insane things become. I think idealogy and religion make people insane...



toggletoggle post by lysistrata32 at Nov 28,2004 11:29pm
any pro kkk, Alabamian website should have skinhead music links-- good luck bro



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Oct 15,2005 10:00pm
i thought i had it good and then hatians moved into my nieghborhood - vile.
great band / great lyrics
boston hardcore



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Oct 15,2005 10:25pm
Back to the racism...


...




...Nigger.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Oct 15,2005 10:52pm
whoremastery said:
ever listen to jonny rebel...that guy was fuckin racist as all hell!


guess what fucker? his backup band was BLACK! Spelled B-L-A-C-K.It was a fucking joke(Vaginal Jesus anyone?) that's gotten cult status so listen and enjoy.Since if the blacks approve then it must be ok for us whits not to feel guilty about it. Now give me my reparations boy!



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Oct 15,2005 10:57pm
I mean us whites.Whits are those things grannys rub their corns off with or something something



toggletoggle post by death devil at Oct 15,2005 11:57pm
Christraper said:
whoremastery said:
ever listen to jonny rebel...that guy was fuckin racist as all hell!

Jonny Rebel's a funny bastard.



high stepping yella



toggletoggle post by necro humpte hump at Oct 15,2005 11:58pm
angry aryans are great and from detroit



toggletoggle post by Chris_From_Shit_Fuck  at Oct 16,2005 12:21am
Kill All the White People



toggletoggle post by coldnorthernvengeance  at Oct 16,2005 7:43am
Chris_From_Shit_Fuck said:
I Love Black Cock



Keep that to yerself nigger lover



toggletoggle post by BestialOnslaught  at Oct 16,2005 8:16am
I know this thread is annnnncient... But I found it funny that someone trying to argue about Satanism in our current context had no idea who Anton LaVey was.



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Oct 17,2005 10:08am
anonymous said:
whoremastery said:
ever listen to jonny rebel...that guy was fuckin racist as all hell!


guess what fucker? his backup band was BLACK! Spelled B-L-A-C-K.It was a fucking joke(Vaginal Jesus anyone?) that's gotten cult status so listen and enjoy.Since if the blacks approve then it must be ok for us whits not to feel guilty about it. Now give me my reparations boy!


Uh, that's total bullshit. Johnny Rebel never played with blacks.

Wop bop bam bam.........





toggletoggle post by Messerschmitt at Oct 17,2005 10:13am
banjo lips



toggletoggle post by babyshaker at Oct 17,2005 12:35pm
armageddonday said:
Going back to the ratio of hot girls in Europe vs the US, and the excellent picture Coldnorthernvengeance posted...I moved here 4 years ago, probably gained 20 pounds yet I'm vegetarian. I've never eat as much in my life...just thinking of it make me wanna go to the gym tomorrow morning.

I've been to Sweden, I love this country, mostly cause of the amount of amazing bands who come from there (punk AND metal). I'm not sure how well I would be accepted if I ever decide to move there, I'm European, have some German, Dutch and Swedish roots on my mother side, mostly English on my father side.
Sweden is THE cleanest country I've seen in my life, the crime rate is uber low, and there are really NOT MANY colored people there...
This is just something I noticed.
As far as nationality, I'm French. I have a green card, when I got approved, the guy asked me if I wanted to apply for US citizenship, and I instantly replied "No, thank you".
I don't want to lose my European nationality, bottom line. If I take US citizenship, they'll ask me to give up my French nationality (European IS the key word in French). The only way to get dual citizenship is to have one parent American. I would not say I'm proud, I just don't want to lose my nationality, I was born French, I'll die French yet I'm not proud to be French...I think you have to be there to understand.

Religions suck. It's just weird that human need it, this I just really don't understand. I'm reading "The prince of darkness" right now, some philosophical view of Satan/the devil etc...this book is tough to read but what I read so far made complete sense (and I'm just at page 10 or so).
Racism I don't understand either.


lol "colored people" i didnt know people where still using that term hilarious



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 17,2005 12:39pm
wasnt chris griffen allowed to use that term when he went to that island?



toggletoggle post by coldnorthernvengeance  at Oct 17,2005 2:52pm
babyshaker said:
armageddonday said:
Going back to the ratio of hot girls in Europe vs the US, and the excellent picture Coldnorthernvengeance posted...I moved here 4 years ago, probably gained 20 pounds yet I'm vegetarian. I've never eat as much in my life...just thinking of it make me wanna go to the gym tomorrow morning.

I've been to Sweden, I love this country, mostly cause of the amount of amazing bands who come from there (punk AND metal). I'm not sure how well I would be accepted if I ever decide to move there, I'm European, have some German, Dutch and Swedish roots on my mother side, mostly English on my father side.
Sweden is THE cleanest country I've seen in my life, the crime rate is uber low, and there are really NOT MANY colored people there...
This is just something I noticed.
As far as nationality, I'm French. I have a green card, when I got approved, the guy asked me if I wanted to apply for US citizenship, and I instantly replied "No, thank you".
I don't want to lose my European nationality, bottom line. If I take US citizenship, they'll ask me to give up my French nationality (European IS the key word in French). The only way to get dual citizenship is to have one parent American. I would not say I'm proud, I just don't want to lose my nationality, I was born French, I'll die French yet I'm not proud to be French...I think you have to be there to understand.

Religions suck. It's just weird that human need it, this I just really don't understand. I'm reading "The prince of darkness" right now, some philosophical view of Satan/the devil etc...this book is tough to read but what I read so far made complete sense (and I'm just at page 10 or so).
Racism I don't understand either.


lol "colored people" i didnt know people where still using that term

hilarious


Yeah, wait a minute!!! She is not towing the leftist egalitarian politically correct party line!!! She must be a bigot!!!




toggletoggle post by babyshakedoesnt feel like loggin in at Oct 17,2005 5:14pm
im not calling her a bigot i just said that term is hilarious calm down pal



toggletoggle post by hoser at Oct 17,2005 6:09pm
RustedAngel said:
out of curiosity:

are there bands/people who are 'white power' but at the same time not racist? Just proud to be white? I mean there are plenty of black people proud to be black and that's okay, peurto ricans have their pride week in worcester driving around with flags all over their cars, ect... but if someone is proud to be white they're automatically labeled racist.



BINGO......someone finally hit the nail on the head.



toggletoggle post by hoser at Oct 17,2005 6:12pm
retzam said:
coldnorthernvengeance said:


Keep Sweden Swedish...


If that girl is indeed swedish she's most likely been mixed with another ethnicity. Swedish girls tend to have smaller boobs and more accented cheek bones which result in kind of narrow eyes when smiling.


You are truly a fucking dork....what are you now, an Anthropologist?




toggletoggle post by hoser at Oct 17,2005 6:14pm
retzam said:
coldnorthernvengeance said:
retzam said:
coldnorthernvengeance said:


She's the mascot for Ultima Thule... A Swedish Pride rock band. I'm gonna have to say your wrong on that one...


That means nothing actually about her heritage. Besides, noticed how I took back my comment? It doesn't matter, she looks very similar to many blonde porn stars here in america, and they aren't swedish, they just died their hair. A common misconception is that every swedish girl is a beautiful blonde with a nice set who loves to fuck.


A popular generalization about Sweden is that it has a high rate of Suicide, alcoholism, and promiscuous women and it it's true...


Yep, and also, all Americans are fat, white republicans who eat McDonalds 3-5 times a week and listen to country while cleaning their new rifle in the passenger seat of their best friend's new pickup truck.


God Bless America!!!




toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Oct 17,2005 6:28pm
I want to make blonde-haried blue eyed babies with that girl.



toggletoggle post by niccolai nli at Oct 17,2005 8:14pm
more racism plz...



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